In this episode John and Andy are joined by broadcaster, curator, filmmaker and writer Philip Hoare and writer Jessie Greengrass to discuss The Rings of Saturn by W.G. Sebald, first published in German by Eichborn Verlag in 1995 and in an English translation by Michael Hulse by the Harvill Press in 1998.

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